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MrSleepy - 30/11/2011 14:21 GMT

My business travels primarily only take me around Europe, I only travel perhaps once a month (24 sectors a year), mostly in Economy and mostly (but not always) with BA. I’ve been lucky enough to have experienced a few Business Class long-haul trips for work, but to save costs these have been spread around various airlines (Etihad, Emirates, JAL, Korean Air, SAS and BA). I’ve only qualified for BA Silver once! It’ll likely be bronze for me as I seem to end each year with 400 to 500 TP.

So, after 10 years of collecting BA miles (Avios), I’ve decided I’m never going to collect enough miles to go a very long distance in a premium cabin and have therefore decided to cash them in.

I’ve therefore taken advantage of the new reduced Avios redemption rates and booked two tickets in First for my wife and I to JFK in a few months time. I am officially very excited!

I appreciate this may be a bit mundane to those of you who are lucky enough to travel in First regularly, but for me, I am thinking this could be a once in a blue moon (or at least another 10 years) experience! I am determined to enjoy it and make the most of it having spent all those hours cramped up at the back of an A320!

So, to the crux of this waffle. What do I need to know to ensure I get the MOST of BA first? Any advice is GREATLY appreciated. The BA website goes someway to explain what to expect, but it doesn’t explain all. I’d love to hear anyone’s advice.

In particular, How long before my flight can I access the Concorde Room? Do I need to book a table to dine? How long before the trip can a Spa Treatment be booked? (Is it booked through You First?). Should I just stay in the Concorde Room, or is the First Lounge worth visiting?

We’re booked on 747s. Ideally I’d like window seats, but are 2A and 2K too separate (row 1 is already taken (or blocked off?)). Are we better in 4 / 5 E+F?

Is the arrivals lounge in LHR worth visiting? Or should we just go straight home?

Anyhow, any advice is really appreciated. Thanks.


NTarrant - 30/11/2011 14:38 GMT

Not sure there is a time limit for going in the Concorde Room, but it is rather nice not having to go down the stairs and back up again having cleared securtity. You can dine when you like, but leave some room for the onboard experience.

2A and K are a bit distant, if you both like window seats go for 2 and 3A but if you want to chat E&F are probably best. Make sure you keep your PJ's too they are great and last years.

Personally, coming back on a night flight First is a bit of a waste, but it is more comfortable than Club from the point of view the bedding.

The arrivals lounge is a must I find coming back overnight, nice shower and if you didn't fancy anything much on the flight you can top up on breakfast, relax and read or watch the news.

Hope you enjoy, I'm not a regular F traveller but it is nice now and again.


VintageKrug - 30/11/2011 15:18 GMT

The advice below relates specifically to LHR T5 departures; some longhaul (SYD, BKK, SIN) depart LHR T3, so no Concorde Room is available there.

some key points:

Have your driver drop you off at the far end of T5 to avoid a long walk inside the terminal.

Ensure you use the First check in area (at the South End of Terminal 5), ensuring you request First bag tags both for your checked bags and a few spare tags for your hand luggage.

Head back towards South Security and select the Fast Track security line to expedite your passage through the x-rays.

After completing security at T5, turn right and speak to the Lounge Dragon at the pedestal guarding the White Door into the Concorde Room; your First boarding pass (or sameday inbound First boarding pass) will grant you access. This will avoid a very long walk!

After entering the Concorde Room, go immediately to the Elemis Spa and book a treatment. If Elemis T5A is fully booked, and only if your flight is departing from T5B, ask them to call and see if they have any space in that second Elemis Spa; once over at T5B you will not have time to return to T5A before you depart. DO NOT remove your underwear for treatments!

WiFi is available, and free, but you will need a password, which is usually displayed within the lounge, or ask any of the attendants. The current password is also available on BA's iPhone app.

You should note you have access to the Quintessentially Concierge Service 14 days either side of a First booking.

If you have time enjoy a pre-flight Shower, and ensure you ask for any nice freebie Elemis products on offer after your shower/treatment. The gurgling is normal!

If you have a long wait for a flight, consider calling YouFirst, the BA First dedicated telephone line in advance of your flight and booking one of the three "Cabanas" as somewhere more private to relax before you fly. You can see what this is on youtube - be not afraid, the burping drains are perfectly normal!!

If you have time, make full use of the 4 available lounges in T5A: Galleries x2/Galleries First Lounge/Concorde Room in T5 – with an F ticket you have carte blanche on access! It is not advised to sample the third Galleries lounge (situated in T5B) unless it is certain your flight is departing from that Concourse, as getting back to T5A through security can be time-consuming.

If you end up in T5C you can get a voucher for refreshments at the coffee stations there by showing your BP.

If it's breakfast time, enjoy a Bacon Butty in the Lounge. If you are there in the afternoon, try the traditional British Afternoon Tea (instead or as well )!

The lounge attendants can bring you champagne, or you can sidle up to the bar to be served; there is usually a choice of two or three vintage champagnes, one of which is normally rose. Do not tip. Ever.

Enjoy table service pre-flight dining at the restaurant all day long, the Burger is particularly recommended, as is the Eggs Benedict.

Check out the chairs in the Boardroom; these are genuine Concorde chairs upholstered in Connolly leather. And I'm not talking Billy Connolly, for the avoidance of doubt!

If you are interested in Art, check out the unique BA-commissioned pieces available in T5; it not called "Galleries" for nothing.

In the Concorde Room, above the artificial fireplace, is the excellent animated BA Coat of Arms "Pegasus & The Winged Horse" . It is also worth checking out "All the Time in the World" and "The Cloud" made of announcer board circles in the Lounge Lobby area; there's even a Damien Hirst in the Galleries First - see if you can locate it!

If you would like to go shopping, you can drop your bags with the person manning the Concorde left luggage area; they will be safe there. Remember your Boarding Pass for ease of re-admission!

If you have a specific high-end item (e.g. a Rolex) in mind, you can telephone the store direct, in advance and request an item be available. It is against the law to "pre-order" items into a Duty Free area, and shops cannot hold merchandise for a specific customer. But it cannot hurt to let them know what you are planning on purchasing. Staff can sometimes bring a range of options to the Concorde Room from which to choose. Don't forget your BAA Worldpoints loyalty card and BAA discount vouchers if making large purchases!

Get to the Gate reasonably early and use Priority Boarding. This is usually indicated by a sign at T5, but if there's no priority apparent, just head to the queue and have your boarding pass prominently displayed; having the First tags on your hand luggage helps here too.

You will be escorted to your seat by a crewmember. Rest up in your seat and enjoy the pre-flight drinkies.

HMRC (Customs) regulations prevent staff offering you anything except drinks on which Duty (tax) has been pre-paid which is why you are normally offered only water, champagne, OJ or a Buck's Fizz/Mimosa. It is against the agreed regulations for cabin crew to open the bar for other alcoholic items (such as G&T) and could get both BA and the cabin crew member into hot water, and lead to a significant (hundreds of pounds per flight and a serious fine which could total hundreds of thousands of pounds) additional tax bill for BA. So if the initial offering isn't to your liking, as for something else to be delivered immediately after take off to avoid embarrassment.

Your amenity kit (known as a BAg) will normally be given out before take off, along with slippers and your Pyjamas. The PJs are usually enormous, but do shrink quite a bit if washed! You can read more about the BAg at www.drharris.co.uk but note that many of the items are now provided by REN once again.

Make sure you get the PJs even on a day flight - keep room in your carry on bag for the BAg, slippers and PJs; they are bulky!

Immediately ask for a DVD from the selection (if your plane doesn’t have AVOD) to get ‘first dibs’ on what you want. Some have iPads now, instead.

Don’t be afraid to (discreetly) tell the crew it’s your first First if it really is – invariably they will spoil you rotten if you get a good crew!

Assuming you’re on a 747, and your a chap, do visit the loo for the window-while-peeing experience, though best to wait until airborne to avoid indecent exposure charges (!)

Consider using your buddy seat to dine opposite each other if travelling as a pair.

It's "Dine When You Choose" so don't feel you have to eat immediately, especially if you have already had a snack on the ground.

On current menus ex-LHR, the ‘Catch of the Day’ is invariably excellent

Keep room for some Pudding Wine; this is only available in F, and is delish!

If you have an "Old First" aircraft, you will need an Empower adapter to power your laptop; new First has UK/US plug sockets.

The noise cancelling headphones should be left on board the aircraft!

When you're ready to retire for the evening, as the cabin crew member (never flight attendant!) to make up your bed, while you change into your PJs.

If coming in to LHR make sure you make use of the Arrivals Lounge. You will need your Boarding Pass, so keep hold of it. Breakfast, shower and Elemis Spa treatments (note the Arrivals lounge closes at 2pm with breakfast disappearing from about midday). First passengers can eat in the table service Concorde Dining Room - Eggs Benedict again, but no champers as this lounge is dry.

You can request an "infinity bath" which the staff will draw for you (it is huge and takes several minutes (10-15) to fill up fully with T5's environmentally focussed plumbing.

It's tempting to get home after a long flight, but given your hot water might be off, and the fact you can mess up the bathroom in the lounge rather than causing a tsunami at home, it can be a wise choice to delay your driver by 90 mins and enjoy what's on offer. Plan ahead to have your toiletries - and a change of clothes - to hand, though!

And finally, a little perspective - don't expect too much; it's ‘only’ a seat in an aircraft and cannot deliver the Earth (well, hopefully not ), with the right mindset you should leave very satisfied indeed


PatJordan - 30/11/2011 18:25 GMT

One of VK's best posts!.

Enjoy the experience Mr. Sleepy


Ricjackal - 30/11/2011 18:40 GMT

Thanks VK Great post to read whilst enjoying a brief Teabreak, almost makes me want to change my travel plans from VIRGIN UPPER to BA 1st ??


Binman62 - 01/12/2011 00:07 GMT

Mr sleepy.........do not wait until day of travel to book spa, you need to book this in advance via the YOU FIRST team. Tele 0800 408 7667 or email
http://www.britishairways.com/travel/youfirst/public/en_gb
You cannot do this until 1 month prior to departure.
If you have the time and inclination to spend longer at LHR T5 before departure, then when contacting YOU FIRST request a cabana. These are small private rooms with day bed, tele, phone and showers. Meals can be served from the menu. Best book as they are popular.
Enjoy


Biggless - 01/12/2011 10:21 GMT

On board is very good. I would suggest you make sure one of you have a window seat since it is very pleasant dining together. I honestly don't think on the ground is that brilliant. As a First class passenger you surpisingly get ZERO preference in the Spa on the day, so if you can book in advance very advisable. You don't mention if you are flying direct from LHR or coming in from a regional airport. If so, you also have access to the lounges wherever you are flying in from.


eehchristie - 01/12/2011 12:45 GMT

Wow, so many posts for you. I've been in (old and new) First quite a few times now on flights of 10 hours+, but always as upgrade when traveling with my Gold husband. I sympathize about Bronze. I would have made it soon, except my 200 points will be wiped out on Wednesday after I have just flown to Hong Kong on Tuesday. :( I agree with all the suggestions above. Spend several hours in the lounges - definitely go walkabout and see what mere mortals like me have to "put up with" in the biz lounges. It passes the time nicely. And the lounges are great - you will look longingly at them next time you are in economy. Arrivals lounge always good unless you must dash home - it does close at 2pm. Have a great trip.


Tim2sms - 01/12/2011 13:19 GMT

Excellent post VK.

MrSleepy - Consider the morning flight back, to enjoy FIRST while awake. (if you don't drop off!) Dep 08:30 Arr 20:15 into London. The Concorde room is tip top, but allow 15 mins to get to the remote gates.

(sent from Galleries South - first visit, v pleasant.)


Bullfrog - 01/12/2011 13:48 GMT

Great suggestions VK.

Enjoy the experience .. 'once tried, you will realise it is a great way to travel long haul'.


kevin46 - 02/12/2011 04:17 GMT

Due to noise from the galley area, avoid all row 5 seats on a night sector if you're light sleepers.


TridentGold - 02/12/2011 05:43 GMT

Having just read VK's excellent narrative, I realised that as a fairly regular F-Class traveller, I have been missing out on some of the First privilages (e.g. Cabannas)! Thanks for providing such a comprehensive input VK.
Incidentally MrSleepy, The checking in arrangements and Concorde Room at JFK are also very good. In my experience, the pre flight dinner menu, food and wine are excellent and provide a really decent in flight sleeping opportunity on the short East bound flights. Enjoy, and be sure to let us all know about your experience!


ConcordeFlyer - 02/12/2011 07:52 GMT

Thank you to VK and others for the on going commentary.
Am booked in BA F for flight to Toronto around Christmas and will certainly ensure that we arrive early at T5 to check out the other extras.
It will be a treat to actually be able to try some prebooked spa treatments since, without exception for last 3 trips there have been no availability apart from 15 mins in chair in T5B.
Lets just hope that the fitters at Cardiff have managed to install a few more new F's before then on the 777's.


Saffjoyfox3 - 02/12/2011 09:34 GMT

Have a great trip, ConcordeFlyer. I emailed BA First yesterday morning to pre-book a treatment for my other half and to also book a cabana, in advance of a flight we're taking the week after next. I got a speedy response confirming the booking, and was very impressed with how efficiently this was done. I, like you, and many others on this forum, had previously found that all we could get on the day itself (even with a long gap before the flight) was a session in the massage chair.


Marsden - 02/12/2011 12:42 GMT

General advice, if you're sleeping CW is just as good as F, sometimes even better, depending on CC and your seat selection. So a very expensive bed imho. However, if it's a daytime flight F can be quite enjoyable and the CCR is truly splendiferous!


LuganoPirate - 03/12/2011 04:34 GMT

Mr. Sleepy, if coming back in F, do t forget to use the facilities at JFK. Great lounge there as well though it's been a few years since I last used it.


TravelwaveBerlin - 03/12/2011 13:25 GMT

Mr. VK .... This is a great post.
I have one question.
Is the access to the Concord room also available if I land at LHR from an incoming flight in F class, but leaving LHR in C Class to Berlin?


VintageKrug - 03/12/2011 14:15 GMT

Yes, as long as it's a same day ticket, though you'll risk being downgraded if you don't spell Concorde correctly. ;)

www.britishairways.com/travel/first-lounges/public/en_gb


Ricardo - 04/12/2011 17:55 GMT

I agree with all others... excellent post by VK.

I would like to add that there have been other posts by people fretting (seriously!) about whether they were going to get Old F or New F. Mr. Sleepy - don't get involved with that stuff. Whichever First you get will be delightful (cabin crew permitting!). Concorde Room is the best lounge I have been in - savour it. Finally, if you enjoy good wines then don't go OTT on the Concorde Room Champagne offering. The wine selection onboard is better. Also, if you do go OTT in the Concorde Room you run the risk of sleeping through your long awaited First flight!!! Enjoy.

Ciao, R.


MrSleepy - 07/12/2011 13:44 GMT

Many thanks all. I really appreciate your comments and advice.



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